Association of Lisp Users, Inc. (ALU) 				07 October 2004 
Board Meeting 							21:00 hours GMT 
Minutes 							Rev. 2

Meeting held telephonically with the following quorum of board members present: 
Officers present: 
	Ernst van Waning, Pres. Carl Shapiro, V.P. Rusty Johnson, Treas. 
	Peter Lindahl, Sec. 
Members present: 
	Heow Eide-Goodman Kuroda Hisao Nick Levine 
	Daniel Polani Duane Rettig JonL White 

President Ernst van Waning called the meeting to order at 21:08 GMT
with seven voting members present: Eide-Goodman, Hisao, Johnson,
Levine, Polani, Rettig and White.

Minutes of the previous meeting approved as emailed. Moved by
D. Rettig.  Seconded by J. White. Motion passed unanimously.

Old Business: 

1. Discussion about recent Lisp activities; Lisp meeting in Amsterdam
   (van Waning attending) with audio recordings taken.  Another
   meeting was held in Denver (Clemenson) with video recording taken.
   "Dinner" was convened in NYC, 30 people attending, talks recorded,
   very successful.  There were also other meetings occurring in
   Denver and in NYC, and Palo Alto.  Heow mentions that NYC will be
   recording video in the future.

2. It was suggested that the ALU host these recordings on ALU.org.
   D. Rettig explained that Franz might have trouble with that.
   R. Johnson moves that H. Eide-Goodman find a source other than
   bibop for hosting. Seconded by N.  Levine. Passed unanimously.

3. D. Rettig moves that an invitation to the extended ALU board be
   extended to Prasad Yalamanchi. J. White seconded. Passed
   unanimously.  President to extend the invitation.  Discussion
   ensued concerning the naming of the "Extended Board".  Discussion
   to continue via email.

4. Discussions concerning invitations to others ensued. No
   motions. Item tabled due to time.  Mentions: Tassayr John Gabbour.

5. ILC-2003 Status: Proceedings are almost ready for
   review. C. Shapiro has the holdings of R. DeLacaze and will copy
   the unorganized material to bibop tonight.  Apparently the ALU
   still owes some speakers money.

6. ILC-2005 Status: Stanford options discussed. August provides better
   housing choices than June. Availabilities include, 4 days/3 nights
   Thu-Sat $50-60/night plus $20/day for 2 box lunch meals. Dates
   discussed included August 10-13, 2005 and June 18-21, 2005
   (Sat-Tue) (preferred), however August will be less crowded with
   better housing conditions.  Stanford requires 50% of attendees use
   on-campus housing.  $1000 down payment required within 10 days,
   with questionable refunding.  Occupancy estimates required by
   February.  Auditorium cost will be $3000.

7. OOPSLA: Richard Gabriel is interested in the ALU
   participating. N. Levine moves to proceed with ILC in Stanford for
   4 days in June, including the $1000 down payment, and enter
   negotiations with ACM concerning OOPSLA involvement, keeping in
   mind the need to come to a decision in the next 3 weeks whether to
   continue pursuing the ACM proposal. Seconded by D. Rettig. Passed
   Unanimously.

8. P. Lindahl departs meeting at 22:45. R. Johnson continuing the
   minutes.

9. R. Johnson moved that C. Shapiro and R. Johnson negotiate with
   Franz, Inc.  about Stanford ILC and financial arrangements.  Also
   discuss options if ALU goes with OOPSLA only in 2005.  Seconded.
   Passed unanimously.

10. CLRFI discussion: It is mostly set up, getting 100 hits per day
   and there is one CLRFI submission.  N. Levine reminds that CLRFI is
   independent of the ALU, but is using the ALU machine (bibop) for
   hosting.

11. Membership: Payment options discussed, including PayPal and
   Verisign.  Also discussed were benefits for dues, such as
   worthwhile conference discounts.  At least for Stanford venue,
   Stanford can handle collections, as would OOPSLA for OOPSLA venue.
   N. Levine proposed set up account with Verisign.  Seconded by D.
   Rettig. Passed unanimously.

12. J. White moves to adjourn, next meeting to be held November 4,
   2004 at 22:00 GMT.  E. van Waning seconds.  No objections.

Meeting was adjourned at approximately 23:00 GMT.

Peter Lindahl
ALU Secretary